Wednesday, September 28, 2005

"Sorry About the Confusion" Dept.

Rafael Palmeiro today, on being asked why he swore falsely in Congress that he had never taken steroids, responded in astonishment:

"Steroids? Steroids? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you said Altoids..."


At 11:13 AM, Blogger bardseyeview said...

I just read your opening post, and I can't say how much I admire your commitment to adoption.

In that post, dating from March, you detail how you evolved toward Anglicanism. I'd be interested to know your views about the Anglican Church's recent attempts at an academic boycott of Israel.

I am a Jewish supporter of Christianity and opponent of what I identify as Pagan risings, however they are termed when they occur. I see something similar infiltrating many of the mainline churches, but I'm more interested in your opinion.


At 12:01 PM, Blogger Ken Pierce said...


I'd be interested to know your views about the Anglican Church's recent attempts at an academic boycott of Israel.

I find those attempts absolutely outrageous. I won't say more about this because I would lose my temper. In fact I'm already angry just having thought about it for the time it takes to type two sentences.

I'd be very interested to know what you mean by "Pagan risings." There is, certainly, a major conflict within American Christianity that goes much deeper than the distinctions between the various Christian denominations -- and the Episcopal Church of the USA (ECUSA) exemplifies that conflict perfectly. I have tried to formulate that conflict as a conflict between underlying religious metaphors. But I'd be particularly interested in how my formulation compares to yours, especially since I find that theologically conservative American Christians generally work from the Fact metaphor, theologically liberal American Christians generally work from the Therapy metaphor, and Jewish Americans generally work from the Family metaphor. Though, of course, Jewish people don't all that often describe themselves as "supporters of Christianity."

I think, though, that there's a very good chance that what you are calling "Pagan risings" is the same phenomenon that I formulate as "a cultural switch from Fact orientation to Therapy orientation," which cultural change in orientation is taking place in every mainline Christian denomination in America (with much bitterness ensuing). But your take's probably different from mine. So I'd love to hear you expand on the theme.

I tried to explain the religious metaphor thing in an introductory post called "The metaphor wars" and a longer explanation of the various orientations called "Defusing religious conflict." But, frankly, it's more important to me to hear what you mean by Pagan risings than it is for you to read those posts.



At 1:41 PM, Anonymous Garland Pitman said...

It''s quite impressive.

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